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Alternator upgrades on a Nissan Hardbody, Pathfinder, Xterra and Frontier with a VG30 or VG33 |
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The Nissan Quest alternators put out more amps
than the hardbody, frontier, xterra and pathfinder. There is 3
generations of Quests and all use 110-145 AMP versions. The w/d21 only
has a 70amp. The big difference is the pulleys and mounting
bolts/brackets. The v42 alternator from the 3rd generation Quest (v42)
and is the biggest alt available and should fit wit the correct
bracket. Its a different mounting style of all the 4 styles used. Here
is the 4 basic shapes and specs on each. Click for a larger picture.
VG3x based vehicles (Only trucks, wagons and vans noted) 87-97 - d21 = Hardbody - 70 amp Some Quest facts. (Yes I own Quests) 93-2002 vg3x bracket part number 11715-0B000 98-2004 vg33 bracket part number 11715-4S100
Different upgrade options: 1. To fit a V40/1 alt in a w/d21. I found 2 options to mount them. 1b. Modify a d22 or v40 or d21 bracket. Add a washer instead of spacer, smooth alt face. longer belt and longer bolt. Much better belt alignment, no rubbing on AC belt. 2. To fit a V40/1 alt on the vg33 in a w/d22.
3. To fit a V42 alt in a w/d21 or w/d22.
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Here is the 3 brands and style of alts used on most Nissans from 87 - today. 3 different brands are used. Hitachi, Valeo and Mitsubishi. The same alternators are used on various FWD or RWD/4WD vehicles with different mounting locations. Some use the V groove pulley some use the Multi rib. All use the same shaft diameter so pulleys swap back and forth with only minor modifications. |
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1a. To fit a V40/1 alt in a w/d21. Parts needed:
Install steps
d21 bracket compared to V41 quest bracket. w/d22 bracket almost makes this a bolt on swap for the vg30, I had clearance issues with Steering box, so I shortened the bracket. V40, V41 and W/D21 brackets do not work in stock form. I had to modify to fit a 17380 belt. W/D22 (VG33) brackets do fit but need a much longer belt. The longer belt causes the alt to hit the steering box. The vg33 bracket needs to be shortened.
You can see the offsets here. D21 bracket has the opposite offset from what is needed. I cut up the V40 bracket since it pushed the alternator way out there. It would require a LONG belt. I cut out the bent part. Then lapped the three pieces. No bending. Stock vg33 w/d22 bracket. Here is the vg33 w/d22 modified bracket on a d21 with v41 alt.
I needed a spacer to clear the housing. I used
the multi rib pulley. I cut off a slice. This does not work too good.
Its hard to keep the pulley flat. I was getting a wobbly pulley. Dont
use spacer! See step 1b instead. 1b. To fit a V40/1 alt in a w/d21. The better way. Modify a d22 or v40 or d21 bracket. Add a washer, smooth alt face. longer belt and longer bolt. Much better belt alignment, no rubbing on AC belt. Remove the cover via the 4 screws. Clearance the housing sand down the big ridge so the V belt pulley fits. So much nicer fit. Very easy to remove cover and sand down. This is a stock and modified covers. I enlarge a washer (forgot the size) and put a washer on the TOP of the pulley. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
option 3. v42 VQ35DE Alternator |
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The alternator is same basic same as the v40 and v41. Same
connectors in different locations. The pulley is same and can easily be
replaced with V pulley. No spacer or machine work needed. So that is
better. The adjuster ear is in a new location compared to the above to
styles. There labeled 130 AMPs. But apparently puts out up to 145amp.
No machine work needed to fit the pulley. No spacer needed either. V groove pulley bolts right on. Same nut pitch as hitachi. With the same 1" longer than stock belt I was not able to get the belt on. So I did some minor grinding to the steel bracket on the block and now the belts fits nicely. I have a d22 vg33 oil pump on this mockup motor. This is creating a clearance issue if I want to use a stock belt. I just dont see the room needed for the adjuster to clear the steering box. So I decided what really needs to happen is the alternator needs to be clocked. This way stock belt and adjuster may work. To the clear quest oil pump filter mount will require some extra work. Or a 17375 belt. A 17380 fits but gets close to steering box on the Mitsubishi alt.
I never finisged the clocking bracket.
But it would be a great upgrade. 11916-8J100- bolt alt/max/murano/quest
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(AWG) sizes may be determined by measuring the diameter of the conductor (the bare wire) with the insulation removed. The lower the number the bigger the wire. Choose a wire gauge by the distance and the max amperage it will be expected to carry. You can always use thicker wire (lower gauge number) than is recommended. Ohms Law V= Volts I-current R=Resistance V x I = Power (Watts) Rx I = V (Volts) V/I=R (Resistance) V/R=I (Amps) I wanted a bigger alternator for all the extra lights I run at the same time. I also winch occasionally. Lights are normally rated and sold in Watts. But that is not a valid Resistance load value. For example Halogen lights use about 1/3 the current (Amps) of incandescent bulbs. For example 100Watt off road Halogen lights don't use 8 amps. 100/12= 8.3. 100watt / 12volts = Amp draw. You can not measure a light bulb with a DMM or VOM because its not accurate. The best way is to use a Amp meter.
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